What Todd Should Do

[darrenbonk]

Take all the time and energy he is putting into talking to the media, making documentarys, running websites and defending himself and get some irrefutable proof that this mammal does exist!!!! For every second of BF footage there is 1hr of Todd standing.

[Louisfur]

darrenbonk said:

Take all the time and energy he is putting into talking to the media, making documentarys, running websites and defending himself and get some irrefutable proof that this mammal does exist!!!! For every second of BF footage there is 1hr of Todd standing.

And he just beamed himself into the BF vicinity. No background work? No hiking? No tracking? No research? WOW! He is truly amazing!

[buddharat]

On his own website, in the media section, there is an interview with Todd where he says he is the foremost bigfoot expert. Man, if I was one of those people in their sixties and seventies who had been researching bigfoot their whole lives, I would be upset when someone comes along with only a couple years of supposed experience who was saying they were the best bigfoot hunter out there.....hmm, actually, that might be why most well known bigfoot researchers don't like Todd.

[buddharat]

I apologize, that last statement was a little more harsh than I like to be. I probably could have worded it less sarcastically.

I just wanted to point that out before someone else did.

[The Truth]

Okay, let's say I was hiking in the woods and really saw Bigfoot. This is what I would REALLY do. First, I wouldn't tell ANYONE as this would be the biggest scientific discovery made in the history of mankind, "The Missing Link", between man and beast. A virtual goldmine of wealth and fame! If I KNEW I saw him and exactly where, there would be a more than even chance that I could find him again. I would get the best portable video and still cameras available, along with sound sensors and thermal imaging equipment ( I'd take out a loan if I had to, best investment you could make) and spend ALL my free time and more camping in that area. I would be there on the weekends, holidays, vacation time (heck, I might even quit my real job), in all kinds of weather and all seasons. None of this once or twice a year 3 day trips. I wouldn't give up until I had FIRM, INDISPUTABLE, CRYSTAL CLEAR closeups both on still and video. If I couldn't find him right away but KNEW he was there I would systematically and gradually widen my circle until I had COVERED EVERY SQUARE INCH EVEN IF IT TOOK TEN YEARS TO DO IT all the while keeping it a secret. Once I had my ROCK SOLID evidence, I would set up a meeting at a place of my choosing between the largest media outlets I could find. I would show them IN PERSON without any image recording devices around, 16X20 crisp color photos and let the bidding wars begin. After I had made my haul, the place would be revealed and I'm sure that popular public opinion alone would insure that none of the creatures would be harmed. (Political correctness, PETA, and the ACLU would insure that) In fact, the media and scientific community would flood the area and the mystery would be over. Legitimate environmental groups would demand and get concessions on setting aside at least that particular habitat for the creature, a Bigfoot National Park in effect. No need for petitions and small time tours with donations to the humane society. This would be big time and the big boys would take care of things. I'd buy my own mountain with a 360 view. and invite all my friends up for hamburgers. I believe this is how I and probably 99% of the average American male population would do it. Now I just have to find one....

[buddharat]

That sounds like a great idea to me.

[jmdewey60]

Just ridiculous. Most sightings have no explanation or even a real description. Most accounts lack any detail at all. It is kind of like going to a hospital where someone is recovering from some kind of horrific car accident and asking them what happened. Especially if they had any head injury. They will not be able to tell you. Then add to that some supernatural being into the mix, and just the plain weirdness, then throw in some heavy, to the core of your body, fear, then some utter panic. Well good luck trying to say anything about it, then to make someone else understand it. I emailed one of my sisters and told her I was posting on a B F site and her response was. "Oh, so you saw a Bigfoot?". The first time was like 35 years ago. I guess I never told anyone in my family about it. I think you might find that in most cases. I asked her if she knew any B F stories because she lived near some really wild areas. Her reply was "never ran across any Big Foot-type creatures while living in Redding or while in Shingletown, up near Mt. Lassen. But there were people who lived around there that said they knew there was "something" living in the woods around up that way that killed a sheep or dear once in a while and there were some unexplained pet disappearances too. Some thought it was a bear or a "wild" person living off the land, maybe hiding out from the law probably...that sort of thing. No real sightings though" When you do not actually see one, and just see something suspicious, you can discus it rationally. But if you do have an encounter, your head is in a bad state and you feel traumatized. You do not feel like going back and taking a picture. most likely you will not want to go anywhere near that place again.

[darrenbonk]

Well now I am convinced (NOT)

[buddharat]

I think the biggest issue here is not personal experiences but that Todd is claiming to be an expert in the field of bigfoot research and that his proof is the best out there...but he hasn't produced these amazing proof.

I personally believe in bigfoot but I keep skeptical when evidence is shown, or in this case, not shown but talked about. I've seen the video on the website (it could be anything) and that's not enough evidence. I haven't seen "video 3" but that's because it's near impossible to see unless Todd comes to your town. He hasn't even come close to me.

I personally think that the believers who keep getting upset at the skeptics should realize that not all the skeptics are saying you're lying and that what you say happened, didn't. What you need to realize is that in the scientific community, personal experiences can help lead people in a certain direction, but tanglable proof is what's needed to actually say something exists.

All I know for sure is that Todd says that he can produce proof of bigfoot. He says he can do it over and over again. I think a lot of people are still waiting for him to do that, and until he does, he'll continue to be questioned.

[The Truth]

"But if you do have an encounter, your head is in a bad state and you feel traumatized. You do not feel like going back and taking a picture. most likely you will not want to go anywhere near that place again."

Speak for yourself, I'd see it as the greatest opportunity of a lifetime and would not rest until I saw it through. Just a difference in personalities I guess. Or maybe just ANOTHER excuse for why it hasn't been found yet....

[Paul]

jmdewey60 said:

But if you do have an encounter, your head is in a bad state and you feel traumatized. You do not feel like going back and taking a picture. most likely you will not want to go anywhere near that place again.

It's amazing the feelings that are generated during a BF encounter. I've read about many and spoken to some pretty seasoned people and an encounter with BF can reduce a fairly level headed seasoned outdoorsman to a panic stricken "girly-man"! For me it's the idea of the strength, speed and agility that this animal posseses. Even a common animal like a black bear can easily overpower a man. Now you are talking about a larger, faster, smarter animal that we don't know anything about. Additionally this animal is most active at night where we are at a serious disadvantage. "Monsters" in the dark....not good.

buddharat said:

I think the biggest issue here is not personal experiences but that Todd is claiming to be an expert in the field of bigfoot research and that his proof is the best out there...but he hasn't produced this amazing proof.

Good point, I agree this is indeed an issue.

buddharat said:

I personally think that the believers who keep getting upset at the skeptics should realize that not all the skeptics are saying you're lying and that what you say happened, didn't. What you need to realize is that in the scientific community, personal experiences can help lead people in a certain direction, but tanglable proof is what's needed to actually say something exists.

Let's clarify the term "believers". For people that have had an experience or an encounter, this is not a "belief" thing. These people have seen the animal or signs of the animal and it is based on these facts that they know that there is an animal out there, they don't believe that there is one.

The said:

Speak for yourself, I'd see it as the greatest opportunity of a lifetime and would not rest until I saw it through. Just a difference in personalities I guess. Or maybe just ANOTHER excuse for why it hasn't been found yet....

You would just be one of many that have committed their spare time and money to the search for BF. Don't think that your idea is a new one. Many people who have had an encounter have spent the next several decades running around trying to get proof. Todd, ironically, is an excellent example of this.



As I posted in another thread, for now denial is the best approach for me. I think that I'll just forget about the idea of BF, especially while out in the bush. That is, until (if ever) I run into another situation or until someone produces something so compelling that I cannot discount it.

[werewolf]

Well here's what I did the last Bigfoot experience I had. I tried to track it. In fact, I spent the rest of my hunting trip looking for the Sasquatch that spooked me whilst I was relieving myself.
yes we were freaked out at the time the incident took place, but to say that we couldn't function...well after the commotion died down we had another beer and continued b.s.ing around the campfire.

[toddstanding]

Okay i am going to have to make a couple of post to respond to everyone. But Starting at the top.
I would estimate i spent 99% of my time studying, researching, listening, and out in the woods. I do very few interviews.
The interviews i do must do two things. First and most importantly i need to tell people NEVER attempt to harm, capture, provoke, or kill one of these animals. For your safety as much as their's. Secondly i need to learn from those whom are willing to share their knowledge.
I will not lie, i have been able to acquire a knowledge of these animals that certainly must be considered exceptional. But listen to me very carefully the vast majority of everything i know has been taught to me by the men and women that have entrusted me with their experiences. I stand on the shoulders of other great mens and womans knowledge. I am a student to 20,000 years of first nations experiences with this species, a biologist that has been secretly studying a extinct Bigfoot domicile for 15 years. I regularly communicate with Phd's from the Institute of Vertebrate paleontology and Paleoanthropology. I read books from Primate Behavioral Ecology (By Karen Strier) to Relentless pursuit by Tim Wells whom is one of the best trackers in the world. I have read papers and spoken with giants in the field that have relinquished information to me that has never been made public because their work is contrary to what is scientifically accepted, however probably it may be.
It is the knowledge, wisdom, experiences, and understanding of these great men and woman from all cultures and ethnisitys that i represent. Ultimately i am just the guy that took the time to earn peoples trust, and listen to what they had to say.
To the post "Beamed myself into the BF..."
I have spent over 6000 hours hiking OFF trails in Canada and the US. I have free climbed waterfalls that are not on any maps and snow shoed into caves with sleep grizzlys. I have to date never met anyone( Other then first nations people) that has spent more time in the wilds, off trail, then i have. That is why i started out as a total non believer and i expect most other people to be as ignorant as i was.

[kova]

I once had a first nations buddy tell me that the sun was fueled by burning angels..... who you going to believe facts or fairy tails?

[Paul]

toddstanding said:

Okay i am going to have to make a couple of post to respond to everyone. But Starting at the top.
I would estimate i spent 99% of my time studying, researching, listening, and out in the woods. I do very few interviews.
The interviews i do must do two things. First and most importantly i need to tell people NEVER attempt to harm, capture, provoke, or kill one of these animals. For your safety as much as their's. Secondly i need to learn from those whom are willing to share their knowledge.
I will not lie, i have been able to acquire a knowledge of these animals that certainly must be considered exceptional. But listen to me very carefully the vast majority of everything i know has been taught to me by the men and women that have entrusted me with their experiences. I stand on the shoulders of other great mens and womans knowledge. I am a student to 20,000 years of first nations experiences with this species, a biologist that has been secretly studying a extinct Bigfoot domicile for 15 years. I regularly communicate with Phd's from the Institute of Vertebrate paleontology and Paleoanthropology. I read books from Primate Behavioral Ecology (By Karen Strier) to Relentless pursuit by Tim Wells whom is one of the best trackers in the world. I have read papers and spoken with giants in the field that have relinquished information to me that has never been made public because their work is contrary to what is scientifically accepted, however probably it may be.
It is the knowledge, wisdom, experiences, and understanding of these great men and woman from all cultures and ethnisitys that i represent. Ultimately i am just the guy that took the time to earn peoples trust, and listen to what they had to say.
To the post Beamed myself into the BF...I have spent over 6000 hours hiking OFF trails in Canada and the US. I have free climbed waterfalls that are not on any maps and snow shoed into caves with sleep grizzlys. I have to date never met anyone( Other then first nations people) that has spent more time in the wilds, off trail, then i have. That is why i started out as a total non believer and i expect most other people to be as ignorant as i was.

Excellent!! Thanks for posting Todd! I appreciate the description of your time out in the bush, it helps me to get a glimpse into who you are. I guess before this post I wasn't sure if you were a city guy that decided one day to go out in the woods or what.

I sure hope you have that extra something to capture some nice clear footage of this d**ned animal. I am soooooo tired of all of the speculation, banter and BS!!!