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Post by 0539 on Aug 27, 2007 22:30:27 GMT -5
What will happen after the evidence is proven to be true. My Grandfather was part Metis and told me stories of the Bigfoot Legend my whole childhood. Do you actually think the government will help with any thing. If you do disclose the were abouts of sylvanic i truely hope that something will be done to protect it. Man is always quick to destroy the things he doesnt understand first... and ask or look after. If any spots are available for any upcoming trips into the sylvanic region let me know, i can help with the cost and would love to go... I'm a True Albertan and i grew up in the bush and respect its laws..
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Post by taffy341 on Aug 28, 2007 1:25:04 GMT -5
Hi and Welcome 0539, pardon my ignorance but I'm not familiar with Metris. Is it an American Indian nation (Canada is normally considered American)? Would you be so kind as to tell us some of the legends that your grandfather told you about Bigfoot (Forest People)? I know we would all appreciate reading the legends on this forum.
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Post by darrenbonk on Aug 28, 2007 6:24:58 GMT -5
To give some background on myself. I was born and raised in Northern Ontario and lived there until I was in my mid 20's. Fished and hunted all that time. I moved to the Toronto area where I have been employed as a PI for the last 22 years.
You know what friends. I really want BF to exist. Nothing would please me more.
What really ticks me off is when people come forward with claims that they have made a discovery and present scant evidence to back up their claim.
When you go to an art gallery and stand too close to a picture you don't really see the whole painting. You have to stand back a few feet to do so.
Now, all you believers. I want you to stand back a few feet from this latest claim.
Todd has said that he has found an area of BC. that contains a group of creatures called Big Foot. He says that he has "scientific proof". By the way the dictionary defines proof as convincing evidence. For this reason scientific proof would be evidence that would convince someone in the scientific community.
I peronsally have not seen this evidence. Have any of you? Surely not Video 2 which appears to me to be staged. Todd refuses to release Video 3 even though he says the footage will "blow people away" (Then in a post on this forum he says he needs to get better footage).
Then, instead of going out an getting more evidence (which he had said was "scientifically repeatable) he spends time making a domumentary attempting to convince us that is it possible that BF made it to Canada(For some strange reason he stated that this was the land of milk and honey with millions of Buffalo even though Buffalo live on the Prairies and his BF domicle is in the Rocky Mountains)
I can spot a con man a mile away and I will tell you friends we are being conned. The way to catch a con man is just to let him keep talking and his words will trip him up and this is what is happening to Todd.
His claims are so similiar to the Dan Hamilton and Buggs incident. Uh, something happened. sometime ago but we don't have the whole details. But BF is real!!
Sorry, that does not work for me and it should not work for all you believers. Demand a higher standard for yourself. Don't settle for less. Push and push these people who come forward with these claims until they can provide the scientfic evidence of the existance of BF or just go away.
Thank you for your time. I am sorry if I have offended anyone in the past and will try to keep my posts more respectful.
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Post by Paul on Aug 28, 2007 10:08:48 GMT -5
Now, all you believers. I want you to stand back a few feet from this latest claim. Todd has said that he has found an area of BC. that contains a group of creatures called Big Foot. He says that he has scientific proof. By the way the dictionary defines proof as convincing evidence. For this reason scientific proof would be evidence that would convince someone in the scientific community. I peronsally have not seen this evidence. Have any of you? Surely not Video 2 which appears to me to be staged. Todd refuses to release Video 3 even though he says the footage will blow people away (Then in a post on this forum he says he needs to get better footage). From my perspective I think that what you are hearing and what Todd is saying are slightly different. He said that he found a BF "domicile", but since the area has been infiltrated and BF is not longer there. He does not say that he has "proof" but that his methods of finding BF are scientifically repeatable. He has two videos but they are in no way absolute proof. Then, instead of going out an getting more evidence (which he had said was scientifically repeatable) he spends time making a domumentary attempting to convince us that is it possible that BF made it to Canada(For some strange reason he stated that this was the land of milk and honey with millions of Buffalo even though Buffalo live on the Prairies and his BF domicle is in the Rocky Mountains) True, but he has said that he is currently out searching again. I can spot a con man a mile away and I will tell you friends we are being conned. The way to catch a con man is just to let him keep talking and his words will trip him up and this is what is happening to Todd. His claims are so similiar to the Dan Hamilton and Buggs incident. Uh, something happened. sometime ago but we don't have the whole details. But BF is real!! Sorry, that does not work for me and it should not work for all you believers. Demand a higher standard for yourself. Don't settle for less. Push and push these people who come forward with these claims until they can provide the scientfic evidence of the existance of BF or just go away. Thank you for your time. I am sorry if I have offended anyone in the past and will try to keep my posts more respectful. I've said it before and I'll say it again.....Todd has NOTHING that proves BF!!! NOTHING, just a couple of blurry videos. IF and ONLY IF he can go out and get more footage that is better then MAYBE he will be able to offer proof. So far who is he trying to con? He tried to get protection for BF, so what?!?! Most probably think he is just another BF wacko. I say let him go and try to get proof, more power to him. I think that we all can agree that so far he has NOTHING, again NOTHING to absolutely prove BF. Now there are some people on this board who are more open to the existence of BF. Not because of what Todd has presented, but for other reasons (personal experiences, etc). Just because we are more open to the idea of BF, does not mean that we feel that Todd has offerred anything in the way of proof. Some of us may already have our proof, but obviously it is only proof to us. Personally Todd has not presented anything that "proves" BF to me. I do appreciate his efforts of searching for proof though. I hope he finds something good, but we'll see.
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Post by malyss on Aug 28, 2007 14:15:54 GMT -5
That is basically how I feel, Paul. I throw my hat in NO ring. If that makes me a sheep then BAAAAA. I think we know how you feel now Darren so do us a favor and let someone else have an opinion. I find what other people might have to say a bit more interesting and enlightening than your repetitive attempts at intimidation. I would encourage more people to speak up and I hope that no-one feels stifled by your rampant negativity and critisism.
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Post by Paul on Aug 28, 2007 14:25:17 GMT -5
That is basically how I feel, Paul. I throw my hat in NO ring. If that makes me a sheep then BAAAAA. We are not sheep....we are interested in the idea of BF and we would like to discuss the topic, review potential evidence, etc. I don't blindly accept things and I don't blindly reject things. **EDIT** Also I am not here to convince anyone of anything, just here to discuss the topic of BF.
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Post by darrenbonk on Aug 28, 2007 15:04:47 GMT -5
pzdPaul-You say Todd does not say he has proof. But he does say he has video of a bi-pedel animal running faster than any human can. Of course he has refused repeated requests to release it. Why? What harm would it do? He says the footage would "blow us away". But he continues to refuse to do so. Even people who believe in this mammal would find this suspicious.
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Post by Paul on Aug 28, 2007 15:31:10 GMT -5
pzdPaul-You say Todd does not say he has proof. But he does say he has video of a bi-pedel animal running faster than any human can. Of course he has refused repeated requests to release it. Why? What harm would it do? He says the footage would blow us away. But he continues to refuse to do so. Even people who believe in this mammal would find this suspicious. That's true he does say that has a video of a BF running away and he has shown it. Why doesn't he post it on his site, I dunno....Will he ever get new footage and post it, I dunno that either. Will he ever come here and explain why he won't post the video, again another unknown. Will I continue to ramble on aimlessly about nothing....Absolutely, LOL! I don't feel "suspicious". I have seen one blurry video from him, like I've said before, it offers no proof. Even if he did post the video I already know that it also offers no proof as he tried to use it to get protection and was unable to. So why should I be suspicious, because he is spending time out in the woods looking for BF? Let him look and if he takes more blurry video then we will still have no proof. Regardless of what he finds or doesn't find it doesn't change what I have experienced. There are many many people looking for BF. Some have pictures, video, casts, hair, sound recordings, etc. I will continue to review the evidence that is avialable and maybe someday something conclusive will be found. Maybe Todd will be the person to find that conclusive proof, maybe not. Hell, over the next couple of weekends when I'm out in the woods maybe BF will step out and I'll take THE video that offers proof, LOL, but I doubt it.
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Post by darrenbonk on Aug 28, 2007 18:54:55 GMT -5
Then why are you and I arguing. We have the same opinion. I hope BF is out there, I hope someone someday finds him (or her),and I hope the species gets protection. But up until today I have seen no actual proof that the mammal exists. Read the article in the National Post on this web site. A scientist says that the only real proof will be a nothing short of a body: not vocalizations, blurry video, eye witness reports, hair samples etc etc etc. Until that time I remain yours truly, a skeptic
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Post by Paul on Aug 28, 2007 20:41:18 GMT -5
Then why are you and I arguing. We have the same opinion. Well....I didn't think that we were arguing, mostly just clarifying some points I guess. I just had the impression that you thought that Todd thought that he had actual proof.
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Post by Kenneth Barr on Aug 29, 2007 1:25:21 GMT -5
Todd has said that he has found an area of BC. that contains a group of creatures called Big Foot. I've been really busy as late and have not had any time to draft a post for the forum, but I will attempt to do so here short and sweet. Todd has NEVER stated the location of Sylvanic. NEVER said it was BC. NEVER said it was even in Canada. There is NO evidence Sylvanic is in BC, that is a conclusion YOU have drawn and is at no time based on ANY information that Todd has ever stated anywhere. Period. Todd refuses to release Video 3 even though he says the footage will "blow people away" (Then in a post on this forum he says he needs to get better footage). Okay. Let me get this right. You are being critical of somebody being objective of their own footage when, after two plus years of working with it and dealing with a multitude of scientists and legislators, he has come to the conclusion he needs better footage? I'm having trouble here. You actually posted a criticism of Todd WANTING better footage? I'm honestly having trouble wrapping my head around your criticism of somebody wishing to take time, effort and spend countless hours out in the middle of the wilderness with expensive equipment he has to pay for out of his own pocket to get the best Bigfoot footage possible? As for Video 03... ...He says the footage would "blow us away". But he continues to refuse to do so. Even people who believe in this mammal would find this suspicious. Why doesn't he post it on his site, I dunno...Will he ever come here and explain why he won't post the video, again another unknown. Will I continue to ramble on aimlessly about nothing.... Though I have posted the direct no-nonsense answer to this question in NUMEROUS threads I guess it needs to be stated AGAIN, so instead of wasting my time rewording the answer for a sixth time I will quote myself and hope that anyone wanting to read ALL the other posts directly addressing this TIRESOME question will take the time to actually read the posts I make. The frustration of some is one of the reasons I've been absent from drafting posts. That being said, in regards to Video 03.... As I have stated in numerous posts prior to this Video 03 is exclusively available through the documentary " The Origins Of Sylvanic" because Todd tours the film to promote the petition and gather signatures. With this footage unavailable outside the documentary showings it ensures people come out and speak with Todd, and can see the full breadth of his research in a positive environment. All proceeds from the showing are donated to local Humane Societies ( a charity) so as to not confuse his purpose which is strictly to gather signatures and support for his cause. I REALLY hope this will be the end of the issue. Oh, and one more thing... ...I can spot a con man a mile away and I will tell you friends we are being conned... For a GUEST on the site dbonk, a Guest that has DEMANDED proof, you sure sling the unsubstantiated statements. Todd has presented his information for the world to digest, open and without strings in any way they see fit. Please, when your ban period is up ( for again ignoring the Code Of Conduct which is now clearly spelled out) PLEASE post ANY proof you have that Todd is, as you say he is, a con man. A con man that helps a species get recognized, gives money to Humane Societies? Spends money to promote awareness of the species and VALID scientific research? Who spends countless hours out in the wild, learning everything he can, who treats everybody he ever works with the utmost respect? Who pays for everything out of his own pocket because Bigfoot research isn't considered "REAL SCIENCE" and hasn't made a dime on it? Where is the con? With the amount of money his has dumped into his research over 5 years, with the amount of time he has taken from his life, with the things he has sacrificed... including employment due to his research, it would honestly take years to just break even financially; his life though, years spent on it for all of you, he NEVER gets that back. For a PI, your terminology is skewed, as is your understanding of the term con, unless you mean the following: con 2 /kɒn/ –verb (used with object), conned, con·ning. 1. to learn; study; peruse or examine carefully. 2. to commit to memory. Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.Again I offer you the opportunity, once your 3 day ban is up to post your proof of the claim you have made, ( hard facts only no supposition please). If you have no proof, then please, keep your ill-informed conclusions to yourself. And in the future, please conduct yourself in a non-slanderous fashion.
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Post by Paul on Aug 29, 2007 9:28:45 GMT -5
Thanks Ken!
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Post by xfactors on Aug 29, 2007 13:07:09 GMT -5
I heard Todd say on Coast To Coast AM that he was within something like 50 yards of a Bigfoot domicile. So where's the footage from that encounter/sighting? And now he needs more evidence? Hmm...
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Post by Paul on Aug 29, 2007 15:48:49 GMT -5
I heard Todd say on Coast To Coast AM that he was within something like 50 yards of a Bigfoot domicile. So where's the footage from that encounter/sighting? And now he needs more evidence? Hmm... So what are you trying to say? I think that it's good that he realizes that the two videos that he shot are not sufficient proof.
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Post by malyss on Aug 30, 2007 19:13:05 GMT -5
Is there footage of the domicile in the film? I believe there are photos in the press kit.
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