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Post by gbone34 on Sept 15, 2007 1:20:35 GMT -5
Todd, or whoever else wants to chime in. Is there any substantiated data on how BF and bears react towards one another? Do they avoid each other? Not just black bears,but grizzleys as well. Are there confrontations? Predation? Both ways? Also, is there any solid knowledge of wether BF possesses an opposable thumb? How well do these creatures swim? What about other parts of the country? Ohio? Texas? Arkansas? How do you deal with people that thrust BF into the realm of the paranormal and mysticism? If BF is giganto, wouldn't he have continued to evolve? BF potentially the last sprout of an evolutionary dead-end? Slow reproductive rate? Welcome all coherent answers.
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Post by taffy341 on Sept 15, 2007 5:01:21 GMT -5
Hi Gbone34, it is nice to have an intelligent thread again.
In another thread the issue of bears in the same area with Bigfoot was put in question. I've heard some researchers say that if the area could support a food source for a bear, then, it also is a good food source area for Bigfoot. I don't know if bears root for wild yams, onions, etc. Some researchers say signs of rooting for underground vegetables may also be signs of BF moving through the area to feed (bend/broken trees have been reported to point toward these root feeding grounds). However, regarding seeing bears in the same research areas where BF has been reported, it seems that bears stay away from BF. In short if you see a bear in the area you won't see traces/signs of Bigfoot..... and vice versa.
As to big cats (mountain lions, etc), I've not heard of any territorial conflict with BF. My 'off the cuff' thought is that the big cats are strictly carnivorous predators of small animals and there is no competition with BF's food sources.
Hopefully, we can keep the subject of this thread going without having 'certain complaining negative posters usurping' this discussion with their repetitive self-important negative disbelieving comments against Todd and his attempt to share his research.
Look forward to some more thoughts on where, how and whether or not bears, pumas, etc. co-exist with Bigfoot .
As to something giving reason to believe that BF has an opposable thumb, there is a large hand print supposed to be made by a bigfoot. I'm not sure but it may show the opposable thumb joint on the side of the palm. I'm sure if you research the web you may find a picture of the palm print.
Good ole' Giantopithicus (sp....?) My first issue/question relates to whether there are fossil bones of the hips & knees to show that the big 'G' was bipedal (walking on two legs upright). We know that the fossil "Lucy" now on exhibit was bipedal from her hip and knee bones/joints.
Now what about Meganthropus??? It's skull seems more probable to what has been reported in BF sightings ...... or Zinganthropus? Speaking to evolving..... homosapiens (human primates) have been the same for a long time with only the area of the earth and the food sources determining the height & weight issues, etc...
What do you all think and/or have you read??
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Post by darrenbonk on Sept 15, 2007 8:40:16 GMT -5
How can there be any "substantiated data" on how BF and bears react towards one another when BF itself as not been substantiated? Would that not be the first step. "How well do these creatures swim?" Once again, it has not been proven that BF even exists so the question is pointless. Please, can anyone out there show me one piece of scientific evidence that this creature exists first then we can talk specifics until the cows come home. Until then it is impossible to have an intelligent conversation.
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Post by Franster on Sept 15, 2007 16:12:33 GMT -5
Basically if we look at how the big game react to each other in Africa, we can maybe deduct how Bigfoot would act to other animals. However nothing conclusive can be said and thus everything said about Bigfoot by these Bigfoot "experts" is purely best guess at the moment.
However if Bigfoot is a primate the he/she would have emotions. If we examine other primate species like Gorillas/Chimpanzees. We will see that they live in family groups who support each other emotionally and for protection. Primates like humans need close contact with other primates and thus if Bigfoot existed. We would not have encountered it alone but in a group.
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Post by gbone34 on Sept 15, 2007 18:08:54 GMT -5
What I meant to 'ask' or say (before I realized that every nuance of my questions/comments would be subject to such hostile cross-examination) is, are there any reports from somewhat credible sources. Intelligent? If you are that skeptical about this subject, then what are you doing on this forum? Lots of extra time? Do you really think that you are informing anyone of anything by stating that BF isn't substantiated? Don't hurt yourself by patting your own back too hard.
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Post by gbone34 on Sept 15, 2007 18:20:07 GMT -5
thank you taffy and franster for being civil, unlike 'bonkey'. Must be nice to have that much free time. Find things you don't like or disagree with sit online bicker, knitpick, drive-by criticisms, etc. Go log on NASA's website and tell a planet doesn't exist, or that they didn't really land on the moon.
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Post by taffy341 on Sept 16, 2007 0:11:17 GMT -5
Gbone, I gave you the warning .... we just ignore those negative troubled posters attempts to ruin this forum and any discussions...
Liked your reply.... LOL.... 
hopefully Ken will wise up and remove the negative posts from threads where the posters obviously are not considerately addressing the particular subject of the thread. The 'negative denial of the possibility of BF post' has nothing to do with your question request for a theory discussion.
I tried to put the pictures of the skulls I mentioned in my post but it wouldn't copy and transfer to the post.
Discussing the possibilities of your inquiry is interesting.
It is best to just ignore the negative posters' comments as if they never posted and carry on the discussion in the 'frame of mind' that you intended for the thread's subject.
As long as the (?) has people reacting to them, they will keep writing something negative on every subject thread.... the troublemakers don't deserve acknowledgement with all their constant repetitive negative postings on this forum!!!
" I rest my case"
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Post by darrenbonk on Sept 16, 2007 12:45:52 GMT -5
I don't think Todd will ban me. In fact in one of his videos he states that he likes skeptics because they ask the hard questions.
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Post by darrenbonk on Sept 16, 2007 12:56:35 GMT -5
And besides would this forum really be any fun with just all you BF believers trading information and no one there to question this information. I'm just the little cricket who is saying "that sounds plausible, thats BS, that could of happened, that never did" After all we do have free speech in our country don't we?
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Post by curious on Sept 17, 2007 9:27:52 GMT -5
darrenbonk, simply said, you are redundantly & repetitively boring with the same negative opinions on every subject in this forum. Get over yourself, this forum is not about you.
So why don't you quit trying to ruin every discussion that has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR DISBELIEFS....
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